certain music files not appearing in playlists

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certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by alphabetagaga » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:34 am

hi guys experiencing a slight problem that has me baffled.

twonky server grabs my music and itunes playlists without issue except one. certain songs refuse to appear in playlists. eg within itunes itself, a playlist has 198 songs and within twonky only 186 show. i've checked 127.0.0.1:9000/webbrowse#music and the missing tracks do show under the relevant artists or albums. just not in the playlists.

i've tried removing the affected songs from the actual itunes playlist, re-adding them to see if twonky then picks them up, but this does not work. i've tried creating a brand new playlist within itunes and adding just the 12 missing songs. the playlist folder entry shows in twonky but with '0 items'

any clues?

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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by phibertron » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:13 am

very odd indeed

are there any special characters in the filenames or title tag of the items?

are the files in some place different than the rest of you items?
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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by alphabetagaga » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:44 pm

yes very odd and nothing tag-wise seems out of order. as in my op, the files that are missing from the playlist all show up fine if i browse by the album or artist etc. is there any way of posting screengrabs to show what i am seeing?

so far within the twonky server settings, i've tried restarting server, rescan content folders, reset to defaults and clearing cache. nothing works.

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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by phibertron » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:21 pm

can you show me a short example of the playlist in text format
with the ones that aren't working
and a couple of ones that are working
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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by alphabetagaga » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:54 pm

i've uploaded some screengrabs to help.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=5 ... der%2c.JPG

hopefully it is self explanatory but the main things you can see are

1 - from the itunes application screengrab, tracks 2 3 & 4 (pixies - surfer rosa) are not appearing in the relevant twonky playlist (twonky2.jpg). there are 9 more tracks loaded in the itunes playlist that are missing but they appear below the 20 tracks shown in the screengrab.

2 - the first picture (twonky1.jpg) shows 186 items yet the itunes window (twonky3.jpg) shows 198 items.

3 - pictures 4 & 5 show that the pixies surfer rosa album appears as it should if browsed by album or artist

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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by phibertron » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:13 pm

i've tried removing the affected songs from the actual itunes playlist, re-adding them to see if twonky then picks them up, but this does not work. i've tried creating a brand new playlist within itunes and adding just the 12 missing songs. the playlist folder entry shows in twonky but with '0 items'
based on what I see from the pics and what you have already tried

My first thought is that the files are in a twonky blacklisted folder or sub folder of one
But since they are showing up in the navtree, that doesn't appear to be the case, it might though...

Are any of those files in question located in any of the blacklisted folders from the below post?
also, are the missing files located locally or remotely such as on a network share?

A list of folders that are blacklisted by Twonky Server
http://twonkyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... tmp#p42092

One thing to try is this
1 create a test playlist in iTunes
2 add the 12 mystery songs to it
3 export the test playlist to an m3u file, and save it into the root folder that is where your music share is located
4 wait for twonky to detect it
5 goto the twonky playlists and view it
6 does doing this show the files now?
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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by alphabetagaga » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:03 pm

all music is located in the same one place

C:\Users\Stuart P\Music

and as you say the files show up when browsing via artist or album within twonky server. thanks for the test playlist scenario but that has not worked. i added 8 songs from the same album as above (surfer rosa) and put the exported m3u file in C:\Users\Stuart P\Music\ and it shows 0 files :(

so to repeat, the affected album shows in full within the twonky server nav-tree except any for playlists. weird.

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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by phibertron » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:36 pm

the other idea I had was that maybe it was related to drm
but that still wouldn't explain them showing up in the navtree
this is an odd one indeed

I would contact twonky via email on this one, help@twonky.com and or support@twonky.com
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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by alphabetagaga » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:21 pm

thanks for the input i'll contact twonky and post back with any replies.

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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by phibertron » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:30 pm

your welcome
I wish we could have found the root cause of the issue
you should include this thread in your email to twonky
so they can see what we have already tried
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10627
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9353
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9408
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9416
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9424
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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by alphabetagaga » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:19 am

unfortunately i'm still awaiting a response from twonky :| i emailed them direct on sat 7 june via the 2 emails given above. the email contained a link to this thread.

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Re: certain music files not appearing in playlists

Post by phibertron » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:55 pm

I did email someone at twonky, but they are on vacation till next week
I'll ping them again next week
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10627
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9353
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9408
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9416
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9424
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9364
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9497

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