4.4 Stable No PS3 DIVX

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tankerkevo
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4.4 Stable No PS3 DIVX

Post by tankerkevo » Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:37 am

Just updated the PS3 to the new DIVX certified firmware.

All my divx files are coming up as unsupported data over Twonky 4.4 Stable.

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Post by dreadlocks » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:32 am

I can confirm this, I also tried the latest beta (4.4.3 RC2) and it also showed up as unsupported media..

Here is what appears in the log file when I try to open a list of Divx/Xvid files:

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07:51:24:828 [Error] - LOG_HTTP:HTTP_get_header Cannot receive header, clientSocket=10, nBytesReceived=0
*hopes this gets addressed before trial expires*

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Post by mgillespie » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:21 am

Same results here.

I have 2 media files, 1x XVid and 1x DivX, both play from memory card locally, but do not stream via Twonky.

The test WMV I used however worked locally, and streamed fine from Twonky.

Perhaps we need a new RC with PS3 DivX/Xvid support :-) (pretty please...)
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yup nothing here either

Post by kelix » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:56 am

Nothing from a mac trying to stream Xvid /DivX on Beta 2 (not RC2)

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Re: yup nothing here either

Post by Shonk » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:05 am

Same on my linkstation pro

tried setting it to a generic media server for the ps3 in twonky no dice

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Post by andymck » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:23 pm

Sam here.
PS3 and Twonky on Linkstation live - unsupported data.
PS3 and files on USB Hdd - all playing
PS3 and basic Linkstation media serve s/ware - some supported.
Xbox 360 and Twonky on Link-live - all files playing

Any ideas?

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Post by ThyMaster » Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:44 pm

Same here, too.

PS3 plays them locally or from USB stick but not via TV 4.4.2.

@christian: Please fix this in 4.4.3.

Thx in advance
-ThyMaster

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Post by HDPete » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:03 pm

... or sooner ...

!!!

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Please.......

Post by Angel67 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:22 pm

Please..............

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Post by cliffa » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:47 pm

We can probably fix this ourselves, I imagine it just requires a modification to the client.db entry for the PS3 to reflect the new video types the PS3 can now support. If I add .avi and .wmv to the MT:mpeg,mpeg2,vdr,spts,tp,ts video/mpeg line the files show up in the PS3 interface, but error play. So I guess it is just a case of using the right info. So help Twonky please????

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Post by dreadlocks » Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:49 pm

cliffa wrote:We can probably fix this ourselves, I imagine it just requires a modification to the client.db entry for the PS3 to reflect the new video types the PS3 can now support. If I add .avi and .wmv to the MT:mpeg,mpeg2,vdr,spts,tp,ts video/mpeg line the files show up in the PS3 interface, but error play. So I guess it is just a case of using the right info. So help Twonky please????
I am at work so I cant try it but yer trying to tell the PS3 that the divx file is a mpeg.. you could try adding another line like:

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MT:avi video/x-divx
MT:wmv video/x-wmv
Just a shot in the dark here, I'll have to dig into it when I get home tonight.

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Post by urgrue » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:19 pm

Apparently streaming divx works with TVersity, maybe someone can see what kind of mime info that streams to the PS3?
I tried every variation I could think of, video/avi, video/divx, video/x-divx, x-ms-avi, x-msvideo, msvideo, etc etc etc....but didnt work.

Edit: wmv works fine for me (shows up as vc-1), i didnt have to change anything for that to show up.

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Post by Rhythmattic » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:57 am

Twonky + Mac 10.4.11 + PS3 2.10 + Streaming Divx = Unsupported Data.

I'm am waiting ,on baited Breath.................


Help Me Obe Wan... You are my only hope.

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Post by Kevling » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:47 am

Apparently, it's not just Twonky that's affected, I read elsewhere that it affects other media streamers (with the exception of WMP11 which apperntly works fine).

So with any luck, we'll get firmware 2.11 to fix it!

It's not like we've lost any functionality (we couldn't stream Divx files before the update, now we still can't), it's just annoying that we were expecting to be able to but can't.


UPDATE: Someone I know uses MediaTomb to stream their files, and it was a config issue related to MIME types (see here), so it sounds like Dreadlock's solution above might just work...

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Post by cliffa » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:56 am

Do we know if Twonky also requires the database to be rebuilt like MediaTomb after making the MIME type changes in the client.db?

I tried MT:avi video/x-divx without success, but I didn't rebuild database, only just restarted server. I'm not at home now to be able to retry.

I would suspect it shouldn't by virtue of the fact that is possible to define different MT settings for different devices.

Unfortunately it is looking like WMP sharing behavior is the the one to follow now much as it pains me to say it - how long before we see an affordable NAS solution that can run WMP sharing? - No one suggest WHS :-)

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Post by D-Kalck » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:33 pm

I tried
MT:avi video/x-divx
,
MT:avi video/avi
and
MT:avi,divx video/mp4
without rebuilding database, only restarted the server (v4.4.2) and it didn't work, I'll try with rebuilding the database.

EDIT :
I tried with
MT:avi video/x-divx
and rebuilding the database, but it didn't work and that don't surprise me. If it would be so simple christian would have fixed it in 4.4.3RC3.

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Post by Caoimhghin » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:45 pm

Excluding the DivX problems, I've noticed that with WMV, if the audio codec used is WMA10 (5.1ch) then there is no sound. If the audio codec is WMA9.2 (stereo) then you'll have sound. This is not just a streaming issue, it occurs from external USB devices as well.

Slightly off topic, is anyone else having problems streaming WMA files? I've noticed the music will play for a few seconds then crash back to the XMB. I've telephoned Sony support, but they don't seem aware of any problems, nothing new there then!

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Post by mgillespie » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:44 pm

Does the 5.1 WMV10 file play from a USB stick, with full surround sound??? Be very interested if it did!!
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Post by Caoimhghin » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:24 pm

mgillespie wrote:Does the 5.1 WMV10 file play from a USB stick, with full surround sound??? Be very interested if it did!!
I doubt it, they do not play back from an external USB drive, so I would have thought it would be the same from a flash drive.

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Post by cliffa » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:54 pm

The Xbox 360 real time transcodes the 5.1 surround in WMV-HD's to Dolby Digital 5.1 (AC3) output via optical. It doesn't look like the PS3 does this :-(

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Logs - Twonky Media on DNS-323 to PS3

Post by Angel67 » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:52 am

19:55:16:249 [ERROR]HTTP:Cannot receive header, clientSocket=11, nBytesReceived=0
19:55:16:249 HTTP:received no header in HTTP_send_receive, propably client closed socket, URL=http://192.168.55.3:9000/
19:55:16:254 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 923
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"


19:55:16:255 HTTP:<xml><s><s><u u="urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1"><ObjectID>3$51</ObjectID><BrowseFlag>BrowseDirectChildren</BrowseFlag><Filter>upnp:class,res,dc:title,dc:date,av:dateTime,dc:contributer,writeStatus,upnp:storageFree,upnp:storageUsed,upnp:genre,upnp:originalTrackNumber,upnp:artist,upnp:album,dc:publisher,dc:language,dc:region,dc:description,upnp:toc,upnp:albumArtURI,@id,@childCount,res@size,res@protection,res@bitrate,res@duration,res@sampleFrequency,res@bitsPerSample,res@nrAudioChannels,res@resolution,res@dlna:ifoFileURI,res@colorDepth,res@protocolInfo,res@av:authenticationUri,upnp:albumArtURI@dlna:profileID</Filter><StartingIndex>0</StartingIndex><RequestedCount>10</RequestedCount><SortCriteria></SortCriteria></u></s></s>
19:55:16:460 [ERROR]HTTP:Cannot receive header, clientSocket=11, nBytesReceived=0
19:55:16:460 HTTP:received no header in HTTP_send_receive, propably client closed socket, URL=http://192.168.55.3:9000/
19:55:16:545 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 924
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"


19:55:16:546 HTTP:<xml><s><s><u u="urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1"><ObjectID>3$51</ObjectID><BrowseFlag>BrowseDirectChildren</BrowseFlag><Filter>upnp:class,res,dc:title,dc:date,av:dateTime,dc:contributer,writeStatus,upnp:storageFree,upnp:storageUsed,upnp:genre,upnp:originalTrackNumber,upnp:artist,upnp:album,dc:publisher,dc:language,dc:region,dc:description,upnp:toc,upnp:albumArtURI,@id,@childCount,res@size,res@protection,res@bitrate,res@duration,res@sampleFrequency,res@bitsPerSample,res@nrAudioChannels,res@resolution,res@dlna:ifoFileURI,res@colorDepth,res@protocolInfo,res@av:authenticationUri,upnp:albumArtURI@dlna:profileID</Filter><StartingIndex>10</StartingIndex><RequestedCount>10</RequestedCount><SortCriteria></SortCriteria></u></s></s>
19:55:16:749 [ERROR]HTTP:Cannot receive header, clientSocket=11, nBytesReceived=0
19:55:16:749 HTTP:received no header in HTTP_send_receive, propably client closed socket, URL=http://192.168.55.3:9000/
19:55:16:836 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 924
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"


19:55:16:836 HTTP:<xml><s><s><u u="urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1"><ObjectID>3$51</ObjectID><BrowseFlag>BrowseDirectChildren</BrowseFlag><Filter>upnp:class,res,dc:title,dc:date,av:dateTime,dc:contributer,writeStatus,upnp:storageFree,upnp:storageUsed,upnp:genre,upnp:originalTrackNumber,upnp:artist,upnp:album,dc:publisher,dc:language,dc:region,dc:description,upnp:toc,upnp:albumArtURI,@id,@childCount,res@size,res@protection,res@bitrate,res@duration,res@sampleFrequency,res@bitsPerSample,res@nrAudioChannels,res@resolution,res@dlna:ifoFileURI,res@colorDepth,res@protocolInfo,res@av:authenticationUri,upnp:albumArtURI@dlna:profileID</Filter><StartingIndex>20</StartingIndex><RequestedCount>10</RequestedCount><SortCriteria></SortCriteria></u></s></s>
19:55:16:911 DB:removing shadow files
19:55:17:039 [ERROR]HTTP:Cannot receive header, clientSocket=11, nBytesReceived=0
19:55:17:040 HTTP:received no header in HTTP_send_receive, propably client closed socket, URL=http://192.168.55.3:9000/
19:55:18:507 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 924
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"


19:55:18:510 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 276
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#GetSystemUpdateID"


19:55:18:704 HTTP:<xml><s><s><u u="urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1"><ObjectID>3$51</ObjectID><BrowseFlag>BrowseDirectChildren</BrowseFlag><Filter>upnp:class,res,dc:title,dc:date,av:dateTime,dc:contributer,writeStatus,upnp:storageFree,upnp:storageUsed,upnp:genre,upnp:originalTrackNumber,upnp:artist,upnp:album,dc:publisher,dc:language,dc:region,dc:description,upnp:toc,upnp:albumArtURI,@id,@childCount,res@size,res@protection,res@bitrate,res@duration,res@sampleFrequency,res@bitsPerSample,res@nrAudioChannels,res@resolution,res@dlna:ifoFileURI,res@colorDepth,res@protocolInfo,res@av:authenticationUri,upnp:albumArtURI@dlna:profileID</Filter><StartingIndex>30</StartingIndex><RequestedCount>10</RequestedCount><SortCriteria></SortCriteria></u></s></s>
19:55:18:705 HTTP:<xml><s><s><u u="urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1"></u></s></s>
19:55:18:706 HTTP:HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
Content-Length: 320
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:55:18 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Connection: keep-alive
EXT:
Server: Linux/2.x.x, UPnP/1.0, TwonkyVision UPnP SDK/1.0


19:55:18:898 [ERROR]HTTP:Cannot receive header, clientSocket=14, nBytesReceived=0
19:55:18:898 HTTP:received no header in HTTP_send_receive, propably client closed socket, URL=http://192.168.55.3:9000/
19:55:18:905 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 927
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"


19:55:19:002 HTTP:<xml><s><s><u u="urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1"><ObjectID>3$51$1207960145</ObjectID><BrowseFlag>BrowseMetadata</BrowseFlag><Filter>upnp:class,res,dc:title,dc:date,av:dateTime,dc:contributer,writeStatus,upnp:storageFree,upnp:storageUsed,upnp:genre,upnp:originalTrackNumber,upnp:artist,upnp:album,dc:publisher,dc:language,dc:region,dc:description,upnp:toc,upnp:albumArtURI,@id,@childCount,res@size,res@protection,res@bitrate,res@duration,res@sampleFrequency,res@bitsPerSample,res@nrAudioChannels,res@resolution,res@dlna:ifoFileURI,res@colorDepth,res@protocolInfo,res@av:authenticationUri,upnp:albumArtURI@dlna:profileID</Filter><StartingIndex>0</StartingIndex><RequestedCount>1</RequestedCount><SortCriteria></SortCriteria></u></s></s>
19:55:19:554 DB:removing empty container
19:55:19:581 SYSTEM:checking (once) for plugin /mnt/HD_a2/twonky/plugins/itunes-import.plugin
19:55:19:581 SYSTEM:checking (once) for plugin /mnt/HD_a2/twonky/plugins/shoutcast-import.plugin
19:55:19:582 SYSTEM:parm: [/mnt/HD_a2/twonky/twonkymedia.db]
19:55:19:582 SYSTEM:parm: [Pop]
19:55:19:582 SYSTEM:parm: [0]
19:55:19:584 HTTP:HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
Content-Length: 897
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:55:19 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Connection: keep-alive
EXT:
Server: Linux/2.x.x, UPnP/1.0, TwonkyVision UPnP SDK/1.0


19:55:19:585 HTTP:HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
Content-Length: 485
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:55:19 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Connection: keep-alive
EXT:
Server: Linux/2.x.x, UPnP/1.0, TwonkyVision UPnP SDK/1.0


19:55:19:778 [ERROR]HTTP:Cannot receive header, clientSocket=14, nBytesReceived=0
19:55:19:779 HTTP:received no header in HTTP_send_receive, propably client closed socket, URL=http://192.168.55.3:9000/
19:55:19:785 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 934
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"


19:55:19:786 HTTP:<xml><s><s><u u="urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1"><ObjectID>3$51$1207960145</ObjectID><BrowseFlag>BrowseDirectChildren</BrowseFlag><Filter>upnp:class,res,dc:title,dc:date,av:dateTime,dc:contributer,writeStatus,upnp:storageFree,upnp:storageUsed,upnp:genre,upnp:originalTrackNumber,upnp:artist,upnp:album,dc:publisher,dc:language,dc:region,dc:description,upnp:toc,upnp:albumArtURI,@id,@childCount,res@size,res@protection,res@bitrate,res@duration,res@sampleFrequency,res@bitsPerSample,res@nrAudioChannels,res@resolution,res@dlna:ifoFileURI,res@colorDepth,res@protocolInfo,res@av:authenticationUri,upnp:albumArtURI@dlna:profileID</Filter><StartingIndex>0</StartingIndex><RequestedCount>10</RequestedCount><SortCriteria></SortCriteria></u></s></s>
19:55:19:999 [ERROR]HTTP:Cannot receive header, clientSocket=11, nBytesReceived=0
19:55:19:999 HTTP:received no header in HTTP_send_receive, propably client closed socket, URL=http://192.168.55.3:9000/
19:55:20:115 HTTP:POST /ContentDirectory/Control HTTP/1.1
X-AV-Client-Info: av=5.0; cn="Sony Computer Entertainment"; mn="PLAYSTATION3"; mv="1.0";
Host: 192.168.55.3:9000
User-Agent: UPnP/1.0 DLNADOC/1.00
Content-Length: 935
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
SOAPACTION: "urn:schemas-upnp-org:service:ContentDirectory:1#Browse"

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Post by andymck » Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:18 pm

Any news yet :(

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Post by jensph » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:29 pm

On another (locked) thread stupid.illusion wrote:
stupid.illusion wrote:...version 4.4.3.1 can stream Divx to the PS3.
Can someone confirm this?

I can't find where to download the version I need for my NAS.
Where is the download link for 4.4.3.1 for non-Intel chips?
There used to be many options.

Has the purported lack of NAS support already gone in effect?

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Post by mgillespie » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:13 am

DivX and PS3 is working fine here. It plays about 90% of my files, and what is does not play, also do not play locally one the PS3 (so it's a PS3 issue). I read somewhere, you can't use deblocking options in XVids, and DivX 3.11 is also not supported, so I think this is my 10% of DivX and Xvid..
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Post by flynn » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:16 pm

With 4.4.4 Beta/RC 1, my DivX content is working fine with my PS3 2.10.

This same content did *not* work with 4.4.2. Great fix.

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Post by AusDante » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:11 am

Hi all, where can I get a copy of 4.4.4 for a Lacie Ethernet Big Disk?
Lacie does not have anything on their site :(

Thanks

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Re:

Post by Mako » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:20 pm

AusDante wrote:Hi all, where can I get a copy of 4.4.4 for a Lacie Ethernet Big Disk?
Lacie does not have anything on their site :(

Thanks
Hi,

Today I received patch 4.4.4 of Twonky for the Lacie. Finally my divx streams to the PS3! :-)
Contact support through the system on their website to get a copy.

Cheers,

Mako

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