Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

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Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

Post by strawbs » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:35 am

Hi

I've been struggling to get twonky working consistently with a Sony Bravia DLNA TV and couldn't understand why some of my rips were shown and playable and some seemed to have empty folders.

After some digging I found that the ones that are playable have URLS through the Twonky Media Browser like this:
http://192.168.0.196:9000/disk/DLNA-PNM ... I96780.VOB

...and the ones that aren't have a URL like this:
http://192.168.0.196:9000/disk/NON-DLNA ... I66572.VOB

These have both been ripped with the same program at around the same time. Does anyone know why works through DLNA and one does not. Is there some encoding that I'm not aware of on the DVD? Is there anyway of transcoding the ones that don't work to be DLNA compliant?

Thanks
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Re: Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

Post by dauhuber » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:27 pm

Have to confirm the problem with videos.

Files with 'DLNA-PN***' works fine on my SONY BDP-S 470. Files with 'NON-DLNA' are not shown.

Indexed as NON-DLNA on my Share are partially! .vob .m2t, .mpg, .mkv.

The .VOB are all ripped with the same Programm (Transcode under Linux) the .m2t are TV recordings,
all made with the same TV-Card and the same Programm. The .mpg and .mkv are from different sources.

I almost get crazy to fiddle out, how TwonkyServer assigns to DLNA-PN*** or NON-DLNA,
Actually it looks to me like some curious kind of random process :roll:

No success with reindexing the directory and/or rebuidlng the database.

What to do? Manual configuration of TS? Transcoding the files once more?

Hints are appreciated. Thx

If this has relevance: TwonkyServer 6.028 Linux Version.

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Re: Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

Post by edrikk » Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:00 am

Ah, I would KILL to know the same answer!

I have MP4s where Twonky behaves the same....

Rick? Would you have an answer?


In my case, the MP4s are all AAC audio, and H264 video... Some show up as DLNA compliant (as per above directory listing) and others not... Why is that?

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Re: Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

Post by Shockmaindave » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:40 am

In a previous thread, http://twonkyforum.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... 695#p30695
I had found this and discovered that the non-dlna mp4 files did not stream smoothly to my PS3, but this behavior stopped after version 6.0.1. You might want to check your version number. Hope it helps.

Dave

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Re: Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

Post by strawbs » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:29 pm

I'm on the latest version of (6.0.28) so unfortunately I can rule that out. It also has different symptoms (it won't display those files at all rather than play them badly) to what Dave describes so I don't think that thread is relevant.

Interestingly, I've found a DVD I've ripped which the first 3 VOB are in the DLNA-PNMPEG_PS_PAL folder in Twonky and the last 3 VOBs are in the NON-DLNA folder.

This has to be a question for the developers though - they must know what conditions cause a file to be placed in the NON-DLNA folder.

James

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Re: Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

Post by Shockmaindave » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:25 am

James,

I'm just trying to shine some light on what sounded like a very closely related problem. I agree with your last statement completely. Good luck to both you in getting watchable movies and the Twonky developers in getting it figured out.

Dave

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Same here for mp4 Re: Why are some rips not dlna compliant?

Post by ixdman » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:16 am

The question to me is: How does Twonky determine the res-Information from. It seems that is it not simply from the file extension but by some (unknown) algorithm taking into account the content or format specs of the file.


I am actually having the "reverse" Problem:

Using a iPod Touch with Media Link Player Lite [MLPL] (which supports mp4 [DLNA Profile_ID:AVC_MP4_BL_CIF15_AAC_520] only - see more at http://www.alpha.co.jp/biz/products/dlna/mlplayer/en/mediaformat.shtml) I can actually play the NON-DLNA Files but have trouble playing the DLNA without transcoding. They do show up as "not supported" file formats with MPEG4 Part2. I do not want to transcode these mp4 file again... as the play quite well on the same iPod when transferred by iTunes or by using the web interfaceof twonky with mobile safari. Download starts immediately.

but the files with the same extension get sorted into different Paths within the MLPL
e.g.
Playing:
<res size="40808743" duration="0:04:06" protocolInfo="http-get:*:video/mp4:*">http://10.100.100.221:9000/disk/NON-DLNA/video/O0$3$27I2970/CanYouFeelTheLove_1.mp4</res>

Not playing:
<res size="48585266" duration="0:09:43" protocolInfo="http-get:*:video/mp4:DLNA.ORG_PN=MPEG4_P2_MP4_SP_VGA_AAC;DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01700000000000000000000000000000">http://10.100.100.221:9000/disk/DLNA-PNMPEG4_P2_MP4_SP_VGA_AAC-OP01-FLAGS01700000/video/O0$3$27I2980/Classic_Spider%2DMan_%2302__Power_of_Doctor_Octopus.mp4</res>

So what are the crucial factors of the different protocolInfo entries?
I wish it would all be just NON-DLNA mp4...

Thank you for your support. X

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