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Wouldnt it be great, if we could use twonky to create a container based on the artist tag, like we can with music files

Can we please also get this working for video files
We should be able to do something like the below for ex:
I thank you a lot for the bone you through us with the genre tag, and the added gravy by getting multiple genre tags working

Dont get me wrong, but is it too much to ask for this with the artist tag?

I havent done any peeking and poking with twonky lately
Started doing some the other day though

And what do you know

It appears that the following buildon filters are working with video files using the objects
createClass='object.item.videoItem.movie' class='object.container'

upnp:artist
upnp:albumArtist
upnp:author

this is a welcome ability, and one I thank you for very much
However...

what is up with upnp:actor ?

What we still desparetly need is to have multi value items like we do with upnp:genre
where we can seperate multiple genre with "," and have them be processed
as multiple items, as opposed to a single line item

Im working on a workaround, but it is one that I dont want to really embark on
as it would mean having to retag my entire collection of video's
which would be pale in comparison to a music collection

If we could now just get multi value tags either based on the standard delimeter
or if we could get multiple tag support ex: more than one tag with the same tag name
it would go a long way into making tree usage a greater experience

The 1st tactic I have for attempting to deal with the lack of multi value tags
is to reverse the problem with the sacrifice of only having one genre available
by using another feild for genre, and then using the acutal genre tag to hold the actors
of course having to adjust the navtree to accomodate it
but like I said before that would be a lot of retagging
and my library would be not tag data compliant when viewed from other apps
things would be reversed

The 2nd tactic I had. was to try and leverage the keywords tag

Note: the keywords tag is the only other multi value tag used by twonky, genre is the other
with three exceptions

1 the keywords tag uses ";" to seperate values, which is a good thing

2. the only way I can seem to edit this tag "tags" is in windows explorer, with a file properties view
or with windows live photo gallery

3. It is only usable for the photo object

<container name='keywords' id='picture/keywords' createClass='object.item.imageItem.photo' class='object.container' >
<container buildon='pv:avKeywords' createClass='object.item.imageItem.photo' class='object.container.album.photoAlbum' />
</container>

the following does not work

<container name='By Keyword' createClass='object.item.videoItem.movie' class='object.container'>
<container buildon='pv:avKeywords' createClass='object.item.videoItem.movie' class='object.container' />
</container>

Using the tags created by explorer or photo/video editors on files, would be an easy easy way for people
to manage their video collection, without having to resort to task specific tag editors etc. like mp3tag etc.
they should be able to use the tools they know for media management to add tags

I'll keep banging around on things, but we really shouldnt have to
Twonky Team is making progress, I just hope they can incorporate more flex to the muscle already there

And if the above wasnt promising enough

Using the COMMENTS tag
we can now use the following to read it

<container name='By Comment' createClass='object.item.videoItem.movie' class='object.container'>
<container buildon='dc:description' createClass='object.item.videoItem.movie' class='object.container' />
</container>

A good example of how to leverage this, I posted a while back here:

http://www.twonkyforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 250#p34440

They have almost got things to the point of making my hopes of getting it to truely create trees that incorporate genre,actor,director,and comments
In a fashion that is usable and configurable

I did some more thinking about Keywords and Tagging
based in this previous post in this thread

http://www.twonkyforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 281#p38766

I was tinkering around again and had almost forgotten about the following

<container name='classifiedvideos' id='video/classified' class='object.container' createClass='object.item.videoItem.classified.movie'/>

I have never been able to leverage it, and I suspect that it is used in conjuction with TwonkyManager added tags
but that is just a guess

I was hoping that it was doing something like the keywords function, I think it is,
but I think it is doing via the db and not what is embedded in the files, just a guess

Does anyone know what the Classified Videos container is trying to collect?