Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

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SammyFan
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Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by SammyFan » Sat May 22, 2010 10:26 pm

With the World Cup coming up, I thought, "NEW TV TIME!" :D

My existing Samsung B650 TV had no problems playing MKVs from my MyBook NAS (once I'd edited the clients.db file that is, running from TwonkyMedia 5.1), and after asking online and checking the supported formats (and even the user manual), I thought my new C650 TV would have no trouble playing my large collection of MKVs.

Well, I was wrong. I can only find two that actually play on the C650 when streaming from the NAS via TwonkyMedia 5.1. :(

ALL of those MKVs played fine on my B650.

Also, ALL of them play OK on the C650 when streaming using Sammy's PC Share Manager, and the Serviio server software.

My current, custom profile for the Sammy TVs is this:

NA:SamsungTV
HH:SAMSUNGTV
DB:FIX
XM:DLNA10
XM:DATETIME
HP:chunked
MT:mpeg,mpeg2,vdr,spts,tp,ts,avi,divx,mkv video/mpeg
MT:m4a audio/mp4
AV:no-m3u

Is there anything I can change in order to get all of my MKVs working on the C650?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions. :wink:

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DaemonBeetle
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Re: Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by DaemonBeetle » Sun May 23, 2010 1:13 pm

Try using DLNA15 instead of DLNA10.
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Re: Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by SammyFan » Sun May 23, 2010 2:22 pm

Thanks, I've tried that, but no success.

I've read elsewhere that other people running Twonty have no trouble playing MKVs on their C650, but out of 50+ MKVs I've only been able to play two.

This is MediaInfo data for a file that won't play:

General
Complete name : WONTPLAY.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.00 GiB
Duration : 45mn 33s
Overall bit rate : 3 146 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-12-05 00:16:21
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.9.9 ('Tutu') built on Nov 25 2009 21:13:32
Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 45mn 33s
Nominal bit rate : 2 981 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.135
Writing library : x264 core 65 r1057 5f8a149
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=2981 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 45mn 33s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

****************************************


And this is MediaInfo data for a file that does play:

General
Complete name : DOESPLAY.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 1.01 GiB
Duration : 43mn 14s
Overall bit rate : 3 331 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2009-12-05 14:40:53
Writing application : mkvmerge v2.9.9 ('Tutu') built on Nov 25 2009 21:13:32
Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 43mn 14s
Nominal bit rate : 3 166 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.143
Writing library : x264 core 66 r1114 a933a3e
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=3166 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : A_AAC
Duration : 43mn 14s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

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Re: Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by Papa Schlumpf » Tue May 25, 2010 10:14 am

Hi,

I can play all my MKVs from my Twonky (6.0 Beta 4) on DM800C to my Samsung LE40C650. Automatically used profile is "Samsung TV". I just can't use fastforward (works on PC with XMBC) and it is really annoying that I can't skip ads or just resume watching a movie later from the position where I made a break.
Are there any custom settings I can make that fast forward works?

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Re: Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by DaemonBeetle » Tue May 25, 2010 10:50 am

It doesn't work with the B650 series either. ISTR that there have been posts on the forum by staff about this and that they're working on it but not ETA.
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SammyFan
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Re: Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by SammyFan » Wed May 26, 2010 1:32 am

[quote="Papa Schlumpf"]Hi,

I can play all my MKVs from my Twonky (6.0 Beta 4) on DM800C to my Samsung LE40C650. Automatically used profile is "Samsung TV". I just can't use fastforward (works on PC with XMBC) and it is really annoying that I can't skip ads or just resume watching a movie later from the position where I made a break.
Are there any custom settings I can make that fast forward works?[/quote]

I've installed the 6.0 Beta 4 on my PC and I still can't stream MKVs to my c650. :?

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Re: Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by Dan N » Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:12 am

I have the same problem... iMac (Snow Leo 10.6.4 + Twonky Server 6.0) and Samsung LE40C650... I get no error when i try to play MKVs... The TV is starting to load the file then it just exit back to browser...
Using PC Share Manager all the files works fine... but as everyone know, that software is only for Windows...

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Re: Samsung C650 TV and yep, you've guessed it: MKVs

Post by Twonky_Rick » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:40 pm

We don't have a solution to the FF problem at present. Samsung uses a proprietary method to do this, which is why Allshare works.

As far as MKV files not playing back. We have a workaround for that issue:

Make sure you are running TwonkyServer 6.0.2 (or later). If you’re still having problems you might want to try one of these two solutions:

Solution 1: Download the “mkclean tool” and run it on your problem files. It will fix the problem: http://www.matroska.org/downloads/mkclean.html.

Solution 2: Rip your files using an older version of MKVMerge (e.g. v3.3.0). MKVMerge 4.1 appears to have problems.

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