Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by san » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:00 pm

update
tested the final 5.1.1 on nas WD Myworld book with samsung LE46b750w. the pause/resume works only if the file is renamed
as .mpg from .mkv

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:15 am

Thanks for testing this again. I've passed your findings on to our developers. I don't know why it would be working for them and not for you, but I'll post any comments I get back from them here.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:18 am

san wrote:
only a question, why in my mss2 version the transcode menu is not selectable?
I read the features below but i cannot select the boxes...

Converti in codice la musica in:
MP3

Converti in codice i video in:
MPEG2
WMV
MPEG4
Flash
This is a good question. These boxes only become ungrayed if you have installed a transcoding software like FFmpeg. There is some information about this here: http://www.twonkyforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 714#p22749

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by san » Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:04 pm

thanks Rick, this is more clear

Can you ask to your expert what are the changes to apply for unix machines?

In this case I try to set ffmpeg.location file with this

/opt/bin/ffmpeg

the path where the codec is located but not work

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:01 am

The issue above has been logged into our support system. The user should be contacted about it in the next week.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by hsr » Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:53 pm

Dear Rick,

do you have a quick installation procedure for arm-based NAS (Buffalo Tera Pro II) for ffmpeg to enabel transforming videos within TMS 5.1.1

Where I can find the files?
In which directory I must copy these files?
Which links are necessary?

Thanks, best regards from Germany

HSR

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by robtrapp » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:03 pm

@TMM_Product_Manager

Is there an shedule when the failure will be cleared?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by warrenbbs » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:25 pm

Rick

Sorry, I've also posted this in a separate thread, but I've found that with my setup (TMS 5.5.1 WHS add-in + Samsung UN46B7100 + Acer EasyStore AH340), play/pause works fine, but FFWD/REWIND only works on videos less than 1hr 48 mins in length. All my movies are DiVX, encoded using the DiVX 7 Converter (Home Theater setting).

I also found that since upgrading to 5.1.1 from 5.1 I have to rebuild the database every time I add movies to the server, otherwise the movies seem to appear randomly in the wrong folder and are unplayable by the TV. After I've rebuilt the databse, the movies appear in the correct folders and are playable.

Cheers
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:31 am

robtrapp wrote:@TMM_Product_Manager

Is there an shedule when the failure will be cleared?
Which one? This is a long thread that contains several issues. Thanks.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:33 am

san wrote:
Can you ask to your expert what are the changes to apply for unix machines? In this case I try to set ffmpeg.location file with this

/opt/bin/ffmpeg

the path where the codec is located but not work
Here is the answer I recieved from our engineer. I hope this helps you.

ffmpeg.location should point to the *folder* which contains ffmpeg binary, which appears to be /opt/bin in this case.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:41 am

Sorry, I've also posted this in a separate thread, but I've found that with my setup (TMS 5.5.1 WHS add-in + Samsung UN46B7100 + Acer EasyStore AH340), play/pause works fine, but FFWD/REWIND only works on videos less than 1hr 48 mins in length. All my movies are DiVX, encoded using the DiVX 7 Converter (Home Theater setting).
This is a known issue. There's nothing we can do about it. We'll mention it to the guys at Samsung at CES in a few weeks.
I also found that since upgrading to 5.1.1 from 5.1 I have to rebuild the database every time I add movies to the server, otherwise the movies seem to appear randomly in the wrong folder and are unplayable by the TV. After I've rebuilt the databse, the movies appear in the correct folders and are playable.
I've created a support ticket for this issue. To check status, ask about MM-3349. There will be a new release of TMM/TMS posted this Friday. Please retest and let me know if things change. Thanks.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:44 am

hsr wrote:Dear Rick,

do you have a quick installation procedure for arm-based NAS (Buffalo Tera Pro II) for ffmpeg to enabel transforming videos within TMS 5.1.1

Where I can find the files?
In which directory I must copy these files?
Which links are necessary?

Thanks, best regards from Germany

HSR
I've forwarded your question to our office in Berlin. If I receive a response, I'll post it here.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by warrenbbs » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:10 am

TMM_Product_Manager wrote:
Sorry, I've also posted this in a separate thread, but I've found that with my setup (TMS 5.5.1 WHS add-in + Samsung UN46B7100 + Acer EasyStore AH340), play/pause works fine, but FFWD/REWIND only works on videos less than 1hr 48 mins in length. All my movies are DiVX, encoded using the DiVX 7 Converter (Home Theater setting).
This is a known issue. There's nothing we can do about it. We'll mention it to the guys at Samsung at CES in a few weeks.
BTW this seems to only affect DiVX for me - avi (h264 format) will FFWD/REW ok at any length.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:03 pm

do you have a quick installation procedure for arm-based NAS (Buffalo Tera Pro II) for ffmpeg to enabel transforming videos within TMS 5.1.1

Where I can find the files?
In which directory I must copy these files?
Which links are necessary?

HSR
There are two problems that could make doing this difficult.

1. Most NAS devices do not have enough CPU power to transcode videos well.
2. We don't provide pre-compiled binaries for FFmpeg because we don't have them.

You would need to either find an FFmpeg package that has built for your NAS device or compile ffmpeg on your own. After that, the transcoder configuration should be the same on the NAS as it it on a Linux PC. In other words, copy FFmpeg to a folder and edit the ffmpeg.location file accordingly.

Sorry I don't have better news for you. Thanks to Burkhard for providing this answer.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by esmeralda2 » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:53 pm

Hi,

I have Samsung Tv LE40b650. With Twonky on my NAS I'm able to play most of my movies but I'm not able to rewind videos. I found on Internet Serviio media server (v 0.3). With Serviio I'm able to watch all movies even with external subtitles!!!. I'm also capable to pause/play movie and rewind!! as well.
Would it be possible for Twonky developers to look how serrviio does this and make twonky more compliant with Samsung Tvs??

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:06 pm

We'll look into this. Thanks.

Since this is media file dependent, can you provide me with a list of file formats that work with the other server and do not work with TMM/TMS?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by san » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:34 pm

TMM_Product_Manager wrote:
san wrote:
Can you ask to your expert what are the changes to apply for unix machines? In this case I try to set ffmpeg.location file with this

/opt/bin/ffmpeg

the path where the codec is located but not work
Here is the answer I recieved from our engineer. I hope this helps you.

ffmpeg.location should point to the *folder* which contains ffmpeg binary, which appears to be /opt/bin in this case.

- Rick

P.S. Thanks Reinhard, for the answer to this question.
OK many thanks
IT works, now i'go to make some test and report to you
Sante

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by schatt » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:34 am

Hello from Germany :D ,

I have a Samsung 37B650 and a WD My Book World NAS, with the newest Firmewareupdates, but still pause is not working. So is there any patch available? Or will come some updates in the future that make functions like foreward pause eg. possible?

I read something in the Internet that it will work if I change the clients.db? Is this true? When yes, what should I change?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by esmeralda2 » Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:41 pm

TMM_Product_Manager wrote:We'll look into this. Thanks.

Since this is media file dependent, can you provide me with a list of file formats that work with the other server and do not work with TMM/TMS?

- Rick
I'll try to do some tests with different type of videos. But I think that the problem will be with mime-types. Serviio has specific profile for Samsung Tvs so it can send correct mime-types (e.g. for mkv videos). I'll try to set new profile in twonky as well and play with this.

I'm more concern about subtitles. Here's what I've found on Serviio forum about external subtitles:
>Use Wireshark to listen for TCP packets on port 8895. When I want to play a video the TV makes a couple of requests to >that port using HEAD and GET methods. One of them is a HEAD request that includes header getCaptionInfo.sec. This >is a Samsung specific header. If subtitle for a video is found Serviio responds with a resource URL for the subtitle file. TV >then makes a GET request to fetch the subtitle resource (and it's using some specific mime-type).

could you look at this and make such a behaviour for Twonky as well. I think lot of people with Samsung would appreciate this.

best regards and Merry Christmas

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Twonky_Rick » Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:39 pm

Jirka,

I'll forward your request to our engineers. Crossing fingers. :)

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Start option TMS

Post by hsr » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:39 pm

Dear all,

I would like to start my NAS only if I need it. So I need some options of the twonky start program / script to make no rescaning files after start. I use TMS 5.12 within NAS TeraPro II.

Best regards from Germany

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by DaemonBeetle » Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:16 am

I can't stream MKV to my Samsung (LN32B650, firmware 2009/09/30_002005) from TwonkyMedia 5.1.2, but I can from Media Tomb 0.11.0 after following the instructions here.

It's only the first part that adds 2 extra HTTP headers:

Code: Select all

<custom-http-headers>
  <add header="transferMode.dlna.org: Streaming" />
  <add header="contentFeatures.dlna.org: DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_CI=0;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01700000000000000000000000000000" />
</custom-http-headers>
that makes a difference to whether MKV files are supported at all. Is there any way to add these headers to Twonky?
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by DaemonBeetle » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:29 pm

I followed information for an older version of Twonky (4) and added the following profile:
NA:Samsung HDTV
DD:Samsung HDTV
DB:Fix
XM:DNLA15
XM:DATETIME
XM:FORCE_DURATION
XM:FORCE_4TH_FIELD
HP:chunked
MT:mpeg,mpeg2,vdr,spts,tp,ts,avi,divx,mkv video/mpeg
MT:m4a audio/mp4
AV:no-m3u
I've highlighted the lines that differ from the stock Samsung TV profile, no idea which of them did the trick. This now allows 1080p MKV files to be streamed to my Samsung.
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Twonky_Rick » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:58 pm

DaemonBeetle wrote:I can't stream MKV to my Samsung (LN32B650, firmware 2009/09/30_002005) from TwonkyMedia 5.1.2, but I can from Media Tomb 0.11.0 after following the instructions here.

It's only the first part that adds 2 extra HTTP headers:

Code: Select all

<custom-http-headers>
  <add header="transferMode.dlna.org: Streaming" />
  <add header="contentFeatures.dlna.org: DLNA.ORG_OP=01;DLNA.ORG_CI=0;DLNA.ORG_FLAGS=01700000000000000000000000000000" />
</custom-http-headers>
that makes a difference to whether MKV files are supported at all. Is there any way to add these headers to Twonky?
Yes, I'll pass this on to the engineers in our Berlin office. Thanks for letting us know.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Twonky_Rick » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:59 pm

DaemonBeetle wrote:I followed information for an older version of Twonky (4) and added the following profile:
NA:Samsung HDTV
DD:Samsung HDTV
DB:Fix
XM:DNLA15
XM:DATETIME
XM:FORCE_DURATION
XM:FORCE_4TH_FIELD
HP:chunked
MT:mpeg,mpeg2,vdr,spts,tp,ts,avi,divx,mkv video/mpeg
MT:m4a audio/mp4
AV:no-m3u
I've highlighted the lines that differ from the stock Samsung TV profile, no idea which of them did the trick. This now allows 1080p MKV files to be streamed to my Samsung.
I'll pass this on to the engineers in our Berlin office as well. Thanks for letting us know. :D

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by DaemonBeetle » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:28 pm

Brilliant, thanks. I'm happy to try beta versions or custom profiles if you don't have access to a similar model - I'm not yet making serious use of the DLNA functionality so don't mind if I break things along the way (and I have working backups :mrgreen: ).
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by marcusstorm » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:30 am

Hi all, i have tested to pause and ffw on my Samsung LE40B657 and it works with my TwonkyMedia Server v 5.1.2 on WHS when the TV i connected with a ethernet cabel. If i connect through the Samsung Wireless USB device the pause and ffw function dosen´t work anymore. Anyone else that have the same problem and any suggestion how to fix this?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Twonky_Rick » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:48 pm

DaemonBeetle wrote:Brilliant, thanks. I'm happy to try beta versions or custom profiles if you don't have access to a similar model - I'm not yet making serious use of the DLNA functionality so don't mind if I break things along the way (and I have working backups :mrgreen: ).
I'll post a link here, once we have something for everyone to test. Probably won't be available till at least the end of Jan however.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by digitus.h » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:04 pm

I have a Samsung LE46B650 TV connected by cable. Pause and fast foreward only worked with mpg-files using Twonky 4.4.X server. A test installation of Twonky 5.1.3 on an different PC accessing the media files over the LAN had the same problem. After upgrading the "official" 4.4.X Server with media files on local disks to 5.1.3 pause and fast forwared works for all video types (including divx).
So I assume it is a timing issue, that pause and fast foreward is not working.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by esmeralda2 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:04 pm

TMM_Product_Manager wrote:Jirka,

I'll forward your request to our engineers. Crossing fingers. :)

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Hi,
any news regarding subtitles with Samsung TVs??
regards
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by jpmoriarty » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:54 pm

TMM_Product_Manager wrote: 11. Pre-rotate your pictures before you copy them to your shared folder. The easiest way to do this is view them by thumbnails and right-click on the photos that need to be rotated.
No, devicesn (i.e. Twonky) should recognise the "orientation" tag in the exif data, and interpret it accordingly. What's the point of having it if you're then going to have to rotate things anyway?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Jambaleia » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:26 pm

I have an UE46B8090 Samsung LED TV. I installed the new twonky Media server 5.1.2.

Pause is working with AVI Files. But nor forward or rewind.

I can not play vob Files and / or MKV.

Is there anything planned to have this fixed with the samsung TV and the sh.. DLNA they implemented into their TV?? :)

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by DaemonBeetle » Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:43 pm

Look about 8 posts up, where the solution can be found ;)
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Twonky_Rick » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:12 am

esmeralda2 wrote:
TMM_Product_Manager wrote:Jirka,

I'll forward your request to our engineers. Crossing fingers. :)

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Jambaleia » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:22 pm

How can I add such a profile to have MKV supported and where do I have to add it??

I am a Newbie sorry for such questions ;)

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Twonky_Rick » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:14 pm

If your TV doesn't support MKV files, there's not much you can do except try transcoding.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Jambaleia » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:23 pm

My TV is a Samsung TV a 46B9080 or so. So it is working with the changes in the profile.

But I now switched from MAC to the Win7 Version and i cann´t mount any network drives to the twonky media server anymore???? With Mac it was no problem. How can that be?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by DaemonBeetle » Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:14 pm

Without knowing more nobody will be able to tell you ;)

Where are your network drives? Did you enable SMB/CIFS on that device?
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Jambaleia » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:49 pm

SOrry.

Yes if I install Media Server under Mac and I want to point to a share I can also choose network shares which are mounted to the mac.
Under windows I can´t choose such shares.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by DaemonBeetle » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:01 pm

Yes, but where are those shares? What device is exporting the shares?

Given what little you've said, either you don't know how to map network shares under Windows, or the unspecified device is only providing shares via AFS, which is Apple only, not CIFS/SMB, which is what Windows uses. Until you say WHAT is providing those shares, it's all just guesswork ;)
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated July 2009)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:50 am

warrenbbs wrote:
I also found that since upgrading to 5.1.1 from 5.1 I have to rebuild the database every time I add movies to the server, otherwise the movies seem to appear randomly in the wrong folder and are unplayable by the TV. After I've rebuilt the databse, the movies appear in the correct folders and are playable.
We tried be could not replicate the issue with our TMS 5.1.2 for WHS running on our HP MSS and using our Samsung DLNA TV. We created folders on the HP and was able to list and view the correct file from the samsung. Files were listed correctly and listed appropriately in the folders we created. All this was done without performing a rebuild database.

If you can give us detailed instructions how to replicate this issue, we can retest.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by hsr » Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:07 pm

I have a Samsung TV UE55B7020WPxxx and I'm using DLNA via Twonky 5.1.2 but I can't play "MOV"-files from my Canon Powershot 200xs. Have anybody an idea, how playing "MOV"-files within Twonky?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by Twonky_Rick » Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:24 pm

Very few devices can play QT MOV format media. The only one I know of is AppleTV. You'll probably need to convert the files to another format to get them to play on your Samsung.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated)

Post by kenterfie » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:17 pm

Any progress on this topic about the problem with mkv files and samsung tv's, specially the missing fast forward function?

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:04 pm

I'm sending an e-mail to get a status update. I think this might require work on the Samsung side, but I'll check.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated)

Post by kenterfie » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:32 pm

TMM_Product_Manager wrote:I'm sending an e-mail to get a status update. I think this might require work on the Samsung side, but I'll check.

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I think it needs some work on the Twonky side. Some other dlna server supports it since some weeks and the samsung dlna server works too, not perfect but it works. I dosnt like the samsung firmware support too, but i think this problem is at the moment a special twonky problem.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:50 pm

You're right kenterfie. :)

Here is the update on Samsung MKV support:

Last week we made a small change in the clients.db that will improve mkv support. With that in place, we could play all our our mkv test files (that also worked from the Samsung server). The change is only one additional line in the TVs profile in the clients.db file. This change will appear in our next release which will be posted here on the forum (e.g. 5.1.4 or later). If you don't want to wait, you can easily make this change now by locating the client.db file, renaming it clients.txt and making the one line insertion below. Then change the file back to clients.db.

>>
NA:Samsung TV
DD:Samsung DTV
XM:DLNA15
XM:FORCE_DURATION
XM:FORCE_4TH_FIELD
MT:mkv video/x-mkv [Here is the inserted line. Delete this comment]
DB:FIX

We also checked the fast forward behavior of the TV. The simple summary is: Twonky cannot (currently) support fast forward/rewind for mkv files.

What we found is this: The TV is not doing a fast forward (in terms of a faster playing video. When you press the ff or rew button on the remote, the TV is just jumping to a different position in the stream. To calculate the offset for the jump, the TV seems to use the playtime of the video file. Twonky currently does not support extracting the playtime from mkv files. To get FF working on the Samsung TVs, we would need to enhance our mkv file scanner. I'll put in a request for this, but don't think this will appear in our next release. (e.g. TMS 6.0).
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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated)

Post by Twonky_Rick » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:12 pm

I've created an official feature request in our system for the FF/REW request. To check status on this in the future, ask about MM-3441.

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices

Post by ajay1010 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:10 pm

TMM_Product_Manager wrote:
DaemonBeetle wrote:I followed information for an older version of Twonky (4) and added the following profile:
NA:Samsung HDTV
DD:Samsung HDTV
DB:Fix
XM:DNLA15
XM:DATETIME
XM:FORCE_DURATION
XM:FORCE_4TH_FIELD
HP:chunked
MT:mpeg,mpeg2,vdr,spts,tp,ts,avi,divx,mkv video/mpeg
MT:m4a audio/mp4
AV:no-m3u
I've highlighted the lines that differ from the stock Samsung TV profile, no idea which of them did the trick. This now allows 1080p MKV files to be streamed to my Samsung.
I'll pass this on to the engineers in our Berlin office as well. Thanks for letting us know. :D

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I tried all the different setting under Clients.db but still it can't detect my LCD B650 television...am I missing something

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Re: Connected Home/DLNA Best Practices (Updated)

Post by DaemonBeetle » Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:28 pm

Your statement of "can't detect my LCD B650 television" suggests your problem isn't simply clients.db.

Can your TV see the Twonky server?
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